nobody doubts we're running out of money. whether it's august 2nd or 5th or whether you can go through some ledger -- is this how the greatest economy in the world should be run? that we should be saying, well, we'll take the first 20 cents out of every dollar and pay the debt but we won't pay the veterans and we won't -- and if you listen to what the congressman said to you, anderson, he says, i don't want any tax increases, no closing of loopholes. i want to pay the interest on the debt. i want to look after our seniors, medicare, social security, and then i want to look after the army. well, you know, i've got news for you, congressman. there ain't much money left. if you aren't willing to cut any of those things and not willing to raise tax revenues then you're going to have to rely on magic to somehow balance the budget. that's all the big money. that's where it is. it's not in some mythical waste, fraud and abuse. the bulk of the money is in social security, medicare, the military, interest on the debt.